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Duke Alan



Barony of 1000 Eyes,
Artemisia
309 Posts

Posted - 05/12/2007 :  01:53:24 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello All,

It's been a little dead on the armor topic, so I thought I'd liven things up. Soooo, with Uprising and the Tourney season coming up fast, what new stuff are you going to build/buy/acquire, etc?

For myself, I'm interested in some finger gauntlets. It's going to take some serious design work and a steep learning curve. I'm going to grovel at Count Morgan's feet for some tips and guidance!

I'm also going to be finishing my wood shield (hopefully by Uprising).

Built a prototype Cherbourg breastplate that needs a bit of refinement, but it's mostly there.

Also, I bought some quillions and a hilt from Windrose at Estrella that needs to be put on a sword.

As you can see, many projects, little time. How about you?

Alan

CormacmacRuadri

Sentinels Keep,
Artemisia
65 Posts

Posted - 05/12/2007 :  03:24:31 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Built some greeves and got the round that Bart sent to me fixed up. Other than that not much... Kit is looking good though

Kormak

Squire to His Excellency Uggedei Bahadur Mighan Nidun
http://www.atlanordu.com
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AaronCarter

Loch Salann,
Artemisia
217 Posts

Posted - 05/12/2007 :  04:58:31 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've ordered a new helm from Ilusion. It's taken a long time and comunication is non existant, but I'm still hoping.
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Duke Alan



Barony of 1000 Eyes,
Artemisia
309 Posts

Posted - 05/13/2007 :  09:47:40 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Aaron, I've found with Illusion, you'll have to call them on the phone. He's generally pretty backlogged, but I've been happy with his helms.
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Morejello



One Thousand Eyes,
Artemisia
429 Posts

Posted - 05/13/2007 :  6:20:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have a plan to make some gombosed cuisses, and a wooden heater that needs edging, but sadly, nothing new for Uprising this year.
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Ratslayer



Arn Hold,
Artemisia
133 Posts

Posted - 05/14/2007 :  1:14:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I too am planning on quisses and I'm making a new surcoat. I got my new kettle padded and wore it for the first time this past weekend. Aaron, if you haven't already ordered can I recommend White Mountain. He did an excellent job on my helmet and communication was excellent. I got my helm in under four months and he had told me 4-6 months. How often do armourers get things to you before they promise?

Kelwin


The GOOFY way is the TRUE way!
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Raven



Loch Salann,
262 Posts

Posted - 05/14/2007 :  1:21:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Loved your helm Kel looked great!

I've got a bunch of rebuilds before Uprising. Including a new Helmet that I would love to have done by then. I love having a workshop again!



Raven MacLeod
Esquire

En fides abunde virtus, en virtus abunde fides.
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Roibeard

Otherhill,
Artemisia
33 Posts

Posted - 05/19/2007 :  10:10:44 AM  Show Profile  Visit Roibeard's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Greetings,

I have been looking for some finger gaulents and it seems as tho they are very expencive...Really getting tired of *borrowing* a pair just so I can fight with hand and half...Sooooo if anyone has a pair not being used they would want to part with please let me know...Cant afford to buy new ones as it would seem! *sighs*

Thank you!
Roibeard mac Carthaigh of Greymore
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Aaron di Paladin



Arnhold,
Artemisia
131 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2007 :  1:12:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Roibeard, finger gauntlets are expensive, but they are also hard to make . Count Morgan makes the best finger gauntlets out there, well worth every penny spent.

inkslinger
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Roibeard

Otherhill,
Artemisia
33 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2007 :  5:22:35 PM  Show Profile  Visit Roibeard's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ok, Could I please get contact info on Count Morgan?...Sorry am new to the board. And if anyone still has some gaulents laying around wanting to get rid please let me know
Thanks Inkslinger


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CormacmacRuadri

Sentinels Keep,
Artemisia
65 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2007 :  8:38:57 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is his website: http://www.darkheartarmoury.com/
Cool as cool gets... *as wife glares at him*

K-mak

Squire to His Excellency Uggedei Bahadur Mighan Nidun
http://www.atlanordu.com
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Roibeard

Otherhill,
Artemisia
33 Posts

Posted - 05/22/2007 :  01:01:48 AM  Show Profile  Visit Roibeard's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thank you Cormac!

Sent an email to Count Morgan. However if anyone still has a pair laying around please let me know...

Roibeard mac Carthaigh
of Greymore Castle in the Shire of Otherhill
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Brian Hunt

Artemisia
40 Posts

Posted - 06/16/2007 :  1:21:51 PM  Show Profile  Visit Brian Hunt's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I am in the middle of a 14th century suit. I have a #13 churburg breast plate finished, but I am thinking of replacing it with a velvet covered corrazina instead. I am finishing up a bascinet with a hinged visor that can mount a pig face or a bargrill. I am in the middle of a set of arms that have my first set of hot raised 16 gage elbows and I am going to hot raise the vambraces as well. I still need to do legs, greaves, sabatons, and finger guantlets. I hope to have all that done by the end of July.

On SCA finger guantlets, are people worried about having the fingers ground out on the rattan or are you fine with padding underneath the finger plates? I personally hate grounded fingers because the extra material forces your fingers apart and at that point I would be better off with mitten guantlets.

Also, Talbot's Fine Furnishings have some really nice patterns and videos for sale, the finger guantlet pattern looks like it might be really nice. http://talbotsfineaccessories.com/books/metalwork.html There is also a pretty good looking pattern for the cuff and hand/knuckle region for 14th century guantlets over on the armour archive. http://www.armourarchive.org/patterns/hourglass_gauntlet_cad/You would need to make your own finger patterns, but that is as simple as four plates measured to the length of your personal fingers. Two plates are simply curved to match over the first two lower sections of each finger, a plate for the tip of the finger that slightly overlaps the previous finger plate, and a dished or pyrimid shaped knuckle plate. I think the hardest thing about 14th century finger guantlets is getting the knuckle plates shaped correctly. Well, back to the shop.

all the best.

Brian Hunt

(aka Lord Brian O'Leary)

www.paulushectormair.com

*edited for spelling*

Edited by - Brian Hunt on 06/21/2007 12:58:43 AM
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Duke Alan



Barony of 1000 Eyes,
Artemisia
309 Posts

Posted - 06/19/2007 :  4:41:42 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Brian, can you contact me via e-mail at earlalan@srv.net?

Thanks!
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Konrad



Arn Hold,
Artemisia
87 Posts

Posted - 06/19/2007 :  5:31:38 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I happen to own these pups myself
http://www.darkheartarmoury.com/kyle.jpg
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Roibeard

Otherhill,
Artemisia
33 Posts

Posted - 06/19/2007 :  6:47:02 PM  Show Profile  Visit Roibeard's Homepage  Reply with Quote
yea I recived an email from Count Morgan and sadly its not something I can afford....So I am still looking I really want to start to get away from sword and sheild and learn other weapons. Dont need to be pretty just useable able and protect my hands.

Roibeard mac Carthaigh
of Greymore Castle
Shire of Otherhill
Web Minister/Chronicler
www.otherhill.org
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Duke Alan



Barony of 1000 Eyes,
Artemisia
309 Posts

Posted - 06/20/2007 :  5:33:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Roibert, contact me off-list concerning good functional gauntlets.

Alan (earlalan@srv.net)
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Roibeard

Otherhill,
Artemisia
33 Posts

Posted - 06/20/2007 :  7:01:35 PM  Show Profile  Visit Roibeard's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Your Grace,
You have mail awaiting

In service

Roibeard mac Carthaigh
of Greymore Castle
Shire of Otherhill
Web Minister/Chronicler
www.otherhill.org
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Brian Hunt

Artemisia
40 Posts

Posted - 06/21/2007 :  12:57:06 AM  Show Profile  Visit Brian Hunt's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Duke Alan,

I have sent off an email to the requested address.

all the best.

Brian Hunt

(aka Lord Brian O'Leary)

www.paulushectormair.com
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Roibeard

Otherhill,
Artemisia
33 Posts

Posted - 06/23/2007 :  3:15:54 PM  Show Profile  Visit Roibeard's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Your Grace,

Did my carrier pigoen not make to you safely? I suppose someone shoot him down and turned him into a nasty little tibet.....

Alas if you did not get it heres my off list contact info
Roibeard@otherhill.org
or
dave_mcneely@yahoo.com

Roibeard
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Duke Alan



Barony of 1000 Eyes,
Artemisia
309 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2007 :  12:29:41 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello All, in an effort to get the Militaris moving again, I've got a "sort of" challenge.

Crown is coming up soon, and so I would like to suggest (challenge sounds so....challenging) that those who would like to participate, that you create something new, or upgrade something for Crown. It could be a new piece of armor, or upgrading some garb.

If we all made the effort to improve one piece of "something" before the next Kingdom event, think how much better off we'd all be! Especially if that improvement/upgrade or new creation is more period.

Folks who haunt the Militaris can "show and tell" each other what it is they did at Crown Tourney. I look forward to seeing your new stuff! And I've got to get to work on what I'll be doing...though I've got a good idea.
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bart



Côte du Ciel,
Artemisia
433 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2007 :  1:18:27 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A lot of what I will be doing is getting my stuff up to snuff again. I've re-worked my cuisses to fit better and cover the spots that attract bruises. My kite needs to be replaced, and everything needs to be polished.

I thought I might try getting my 14th century stuff working again. I cleaned my kettle up and took off the rusting camail. I want to try to make a low-profile plastic coat of plates to fit under a large, sleeved tunic, to show off the articulated knees and the helm I used to fight in. Here are some of the things I need:

1. A comfortable gorget that will lay flat over my upper chest and back. I'm thinking of something make of hard plates held together by soft leather. Sean, don't you have one like that? Does anyone know where I can find one,or good plans to make one?

2. A lighter basket hilt. What are peoples experiences with the "poo on a stick" model that Baldar sells? Do they continue to be maligned
as too ugly to love, or are they being accepted as a part of our game? I wouldn't mind aluminum... but I am having trouble finding a style I like.

3. I need a new shield to go with it... but I can handle that part.

4. Coat of plates I have a few ideas for the torso, but I'd like to get my shoulders and upper arms protected. Bowen did a great job with the stuff he wears under his haubark... andy points on how to make a shoulder cop from abs?

-bart
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Raven



Loch Salann,
262 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2007 :  1:32:12 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bart,

I have a gorget pattern that I like a lot, it's basically a circle with a neck sewn on to it (think Henry V).

I have one of the plastic baskets that you can try out if you want, I don really like it myself, it seems a little light for my liking (YMMV).

Raven MacLeod
Esquire

En fides abunde virtus, en virtus abunde fides.
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bart



Côte du Ciel,
Artemisia
433 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2007 :  2:12:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, If I may, I would like to try your plastic cup hilt. I also just found the one that windrose is offering:

http://www.windrosearmoury.com/zc/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=30_23&products_id=35

But I'll need to think a bit before shelling out $75 for it.

For your gorget, are the plates sewn into the leather, or riveted to it?
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Morejello



One Thousand Eyes,
Artemisia
429 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2007 :  4:19:42 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bart

What are peoples experiences with the "poo on a stick" model that Baldar sells? Do they continue to be maligned
as too ugly to love, or are they being accepted as a part of our game?



Bart,
I covered mine with a low-grade green suede, and I think it looks keen.
-Jello
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AaronCarter

Loch Salann,
Artemisia
217 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2007 :  6:36:56 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bart

I made the gorgets that sean and timmer use, if you contact me maby we can work out a trade.

Aaron
aaroncarter74@yahoo.com
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Duke Alan



Barony of 1000 Eyes,
Artemisia
309 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2007 :  8:27:37 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sounds like folks are responding and alive out there! Huzzah!

Bart, I think the plastic basket hilts are ugly as sin, but I really like them for fighting. They lighten up the sword compared to steel baskets. So, it comes down to what you're after.

By the way Aaron, your kit at Coronation Queen's Champion looked great. Nice sparrow beak close helm!
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Raven



Loch Salann,
262 Posts

Posted - 09/11/2007 :  11:40:07 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'll bring the cup hilt to Insurrection this weekend, if your not there I'll send it to you with somone who loves up your way.

As far as the gorget goes the plates could either be sewn or riveted. I think that riveted looks nice as it gives a sort of brigandine look to it. Though sewing the plates in would make it look gamboized <sp?>. So I guess it depends on the look you are going for.

Raven MacLeod
Esquire

En fides abunde virtus, en virtus abunde fides.
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bart



Côte du Ciel,
Artemisia
433 Posts

Posted - 09/11/2007 :  12:43:27 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, please, thank you Raven. I probably will no be able to attend Insurrection, but I'll be sure to have one of my cohorts convey the device back up.

I think I have some ideas on how to make a gorget happen -- thanks anyway Aaron.

I even managed to get some work done on a low-profile under-tunic flak jacket. Looks like I'm on my way for this project!

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CormacmacRuadri

Sentinels Keep,
Artemisia
65 Posts

Posted - 09/14/2007 :  01:34:42 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Duke Alan

Hello All, in an effort to get the Militaris moving again, I've got a "sort of" challenge.

Crown is coming up soon, and so I would like to suggest (challenge sounds so....challenging) that those who would like to participate, that you create something new, or upgrade something for Crown. It could be a new piece of armor, or upgrading some garb.



While it wont be for crown in october I am making some upgrades over the winter for next season. I have been talking to Sir Theodric over in AnTir about a new lamellar vest, black with either green or gold/yellow leather, the plates are based off those found at Birka and Visby.
Also in the works is a new helm, something far more period for my persona... been talking with knotwolf.
New legs that will be uber-smooth and fanless which will allow me to make fighting pants from either linen or wool.
I am also going to be trying a pair of gauntlets like the ones Count Ralph has, got the pattern just not the guts to try yet.

So with any luck I should be as close to spot on period or darned close for next season. The only point of contention will be the lamellar...

Kormak Hroarsson

Squire to His Excellency Uggedei Bahadur Mighan Nidun
http://www.atlanordu.com
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bart



Côte du Ciel,
Artemisia
433 Posts

Posted - 09/14/2007 :  01:41:25 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CormacmacRuadri

I am also going to be trying a pair of gauntlets like the ones Count Ralph has, got the pattern just not the guts to try yet.




Bowen is making some illustrated directions on how he put his together. When they (the illustrated directions)are done, you MUST get a copy from him. He intends to sell the plans, but they will be *so* worth it.
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